Interpretation?

This last dream was very detailed, and troubling to me. I decided to take it to the Lord in Prayer. Here is was I have so far. I believe that the Lord is telling me that Prayer is seed that must be sewn before a storm, and that there is a harvest to reap after the rains have watered the ground.Though storms carry destruction and wind. They almost always carry some sort of water. The prayer is watered in layboring through the storm, and there is a harvest that is brought forth.

There was another dream that came before these two. I was fighting physically with some large powerful men. I could have taken them and subdued them. I knew that I was smarter, and faster, and had no fear. I also learned that if I took the battle completely into my own hands.......retrobution could effect the rest of my life. As it was not in me to Kill these men. Though I knew It would be easy for me to do so.

It was a mess. And very stressfull much like my secound dream.

A few weeks ago as a matter of fact the night of our Worship team Christmas Party
(Best worship team ever by the way)I had a very mild attack. where I started to fight a sleep paralysis episode. I imediatly got up rebuked whatever it was that was coming against me. And soon after felt the Holy Spirit tell me to pray! That I've been looking at prayer wrong lately. I let it become a burden based on my circumstance. I have not seen it as a weapon or as a ministry. The Holy Spirit Spoke softly, but firmly to my spirit, and said... There are things against you, and your church that you cannot number, Your enemy is relentless. They're are Satanist who pray continualy against God's people, and an antchrist spirit in everything the world promotes. However the Victory is yours if you live in it. Stay Sober, Watch, and Pray.

it has shaken me.

Dreams and Seed Act 2

Dream No2 of the same night. Lex and I were on some property connected to a country road. we headed south along the road on either side was a small ditch, typical of country roads. On either side of the ditch were more properties. All farm properties with feilds.......some of them were just fields. The sky looked like a cloudy night sky with deep deep purples and silver streakes. All up and down the road the properties made semetrical grids or squares on either side. The road was about one half mile long. I think that I was at one far end, and on the other end......was aparameter of Super Cells about 50yrds wide each. They extended from the cloud cover to the ground and seemed to be alive with Lightning.......but no thunder.

The parameter extended parallel to the road along the backs of each field roughly 250yrds from the road on each side, and appeared to be moving in from all sides. The storm was comming and was unavoidable. It's appearence was certain destruction. Tje only light sources came from small electric lights, but mostly lighning.Along some of the ditches were very small brush fires. which didn't seem to be spreading at all. I believed they had been caused by a lighting strike. Only it was as if the fire had already done its damage and was now burning out.

We decieded to head back to our property and the safety of a large house of which I never saw the outside as a whole. Most of what I saw was the interior. On the way to the House, I past by some people planting seeds in one of the fields. In fact it was my mother with at least one other man who seemed like a new person she had recently recruited. His knowledge of planting was newly learned and not at all complete. It was as if my mother was training him, mostly by example. Though he did seem to quote her with something that affirmed her position of wisdom. I exchanged a few words with my mother that I cannot remember. What I do remember was her face and her new friends face. The scene was fast paced as I was passing right by them. My mother, though surrounded by this ever encroching storm kept a peaceful steady confident countenance. Her Circumstances did not deter her from her sewing seed. Which she did in an old style manner of scattering about from her seed pouch.
It seemed to be more important than the circumstance. She seemed to know she still had time before the supercells reached her.

Back in the house. Of which may have been an old church I visisted once or twice. I went from one end to the other. I past through a large gym area checking locks which is something I do often. A good habbit of years of closing a skate park, and other businesses. Now the storm was no longer an issue. It became a priority to prevent a trespass.
As I got to the back door I knew there was something on the otherside to meet me. I knew it was evil what ever it was. Just like in a suspence film, as I tried to hold the nob of the door to activate the lock the nob turned back and forth with resistance even as when I released the Nob. Not being one to hide from the unknown. I opened the door, and met the unknown with a no nonscence firm "Get Out". The door opened with out resistance and opened in towards me. Behind the door was nothing, but some small trees blowing in the wind of the storm. All most at the instance that I said words "Get out" I awoke and said them aloud.

Dreams, and seed.

Wow, so my wife and I have have been having some pretty strange dreams lately. She doesn't know about mine yet.

Last night I had 2 very strange dreams back to back preceeded by one of highstrangeness the night before. I will try to elaberate and recall as much as I can about them. Dream one last night, was quiter troubling to me based on the my conduct in the dream.
The Stage: For some unknown reason, we had left our VW rabbit in a parking lot overlooking a city park. when we got to it. We found the car completely decimated.
the soft top had been removed (it was trashed anyways) the engine was gone the window were gone and it was up on blocks with no tires. The odd thing was the body was left in perfect shape unharmed. It looked the shell of a car during production. I remember Lex being ok with it. I however was not an somehow found the need to scream the word "Fuck" as if it would somehow make feel better. This was typical of the way I used to act when I allowed myself to be a victom. Fallowed by me breaking something that I usually owned and actually didn't want broke.

The interesting thing to note that while the emotions felt the same as when I would "Lose it" because I deemed that the circumstances justified the behavior. However no matter how mad I tried to get and how powerful I tried to make the explitive sound......I projected it over and over and over again (that was the troubling part of the dream for me. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks) Some where during the dream it was like I comepletely shutdown. And switched topics in my subconscience. I realized there was nothing I could do to redeem or satisfy the situation.

All of my strength could not bring for justice on my part.

Something Horribly Familar

The following is small portion from a 2001 Charisma Magazine Article. It's a 2 parter. The purpose of this is again to draw similarities between Eliphaz's experience found in Job, and more modern experiences, The first is a testimony of sorts. The power of Christ and The Truth Vs. The power of Satan and Deception. There are a few web sites that I am hesitant post for reference sake. I find some of the material, as well as theories questionable. All the more reason to abide in Christ and be aware of the snares of Devil. I would also say that I have not put nearly half the time into this that these people have.

For years Cathy Land was plagued by an unsettling sense of being "visited." When she realized what was happening, she turned to God to end her abduction experiences.

The pieces started to fit together the night they dropped her. For years Cathy Land had been plagued by the sense that something wasn't quite right. There were periods of unaccounted missing time, mornings when she felt heavy and lethargic despite a full night's sleep, an unsettling sense of somehow having been visited.

Then she woke up with an alien's face inches from hers.

"He had dropped me. I could feel his breath on my face. It startled him that I woke up. He had this confused--'That's not supposed to happen'--look on his face. The second one still had hold of my legs. I rolled over into a fetal position and went right back to sleep."

In the morning she told her son what had happened. Usually the family dismissed her recollections as a joke. This time he told her: "Those were not aliens; they were demons."

"It finally all made sense," she recalls.

Her son's comment propelled her to the Internet, where she found some Christians who didn't dismiss her experiences as nonsense. Her faith was enriched and deepened as she discovered that God's power could free her from her years of torment.

"I stopped being so scared, and I got mad," she says. "I finally understood. These things were trying to get the world's attention away from God, and how better to do that than make people think they are being invaded from outer space? These are not benevolent little E.T.s come to clean up the environment, fix the hole in the ozone layer. They are not from a distant galaxy. They are raping women, they are murdering animals, they are terrifying children."

An office manager for a medical supply company, and one-time stock-car racer and singer-musician, Land began to read all she could to learn more about what had troubled her for so long. She had been fascinated by UFOs since early childhood, one time reporting a seashore sighting to the police.

"Many times I would have a strange feeling just before going to bed," she says, adding that precise memories were hazy when she awoke. "I would feel like something had happened during the night--but nothing I could put my finger on."

One time her son told of a frightening encounter he'd had with "a tall man." She admits that his account had scared her.

But she continued to devour books and TV shows on alien phenomena. She told family members about her experiences and talked about UFOs with friends, though most laughed her off.

"Sometimes it made me feel like I was losing my mind. Maybe I did dream this all up. But there were too many things over and over and over again," she says.

As she read all the Christian material she could find on the subject after her spiritual awakening, she began to see how she had been so deceived for so long. "Everything started to make sense," she says. "I realized that everything I had read had probably been happening to me all along, and it scared me. Then it made me mad. How dare they mess with me and my children?"

Land's anger over the years her life was "held" has spurred her to tell her story to others caught in the UFO mesh.

"This is war. It's the most ingenious hoax there is. It's a plan to get the world's attention away from the gospel of Christ, and it's working."

She says many exploring the UFO world are, as she was, "searching for love."

"That's what they are looking for, really, in their beliefs about aliens. But there's only one place they will find unconditional love, and they are looking in the wrong place."

An active part of her local Baptist church in Jacksonville, Florida, Land says that she now has a peace she never knew before. "I didn't know it for years.," she says. "It was a miserable existence from day to day. Nobody should be victimized like that. If I can save one person from being harmed, then I have to do this for God. It's my offering to Him.

"It's not the mission field I would choose for myself," she adds. "I would rather be feeding hungry people in India because maybe people wouldn't laugh at me. [But] who else is going to go and tell them, 'You are all being so deceived?'"

I think that this is a subject we need to study more. I think we need to spend much more time in prayer, and fasting, and the study of the word of God. There are to people out there who don't need a lesson in Theology as much as an encounter with the one true living God. Like Simon the Sorceror when he encountered Peter. Are we willing to be surrendered enough to let God move through us past our church models, and doctrines? Can we afford anything else?

"More"over

I am convinced that you cannot properly fight Satan and his deceptions without the baptism of the Holy Spirit. John 14:26 But the Helper the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you ALL things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John16:13a However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth;
Acts 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jeruselem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth."

I was baptized with in the Holy Spirit shortly after my decision to live the victorious Christian Life for real. I was never the same after that moment. I became empowered in the Spirit, and Nature of God Himself. If God is for you who can be against you? I started to pray in the spirit (speaking in tongues) daily. I found it much, much easier to read, and understand scripture.

Then the battle was really on. I began to experience more episodes of sleep paralysis. Only now I was totally aware of what was going on the moment it would happen, and I wasn't scared any more. I would fight it tooth and nail, and even though my body didn't have the strength that I wanted to.....My Spirit was stronger! Eventually the hold of the enemy would break, and I would whisper "In the name of Jesus I rebuke you Satan, get out!" Then I would say it aloud, and sit up right with eyes open. Turn on the light, and look around for my adversary. Of course I would see nothing in the natural. I could feel Holy Spirit there with me. I knew I was safe, and that God was teaching me how to trust in Him and access the authority He's given each believer in Christ. I would go back to bed in the peace of His promises.
...................more to come!!

More to come:P

The "More" has come.

AS you can see I've deleted the other filler posts, Sorry if you folks missed the latest which I put up Friday evening. I deleted it before any of you nay sayers could comment. meh heh ha hahahhhha!!!!! COUGH"! (My wife can beat me in bowling, and blogging)

ANYWAY......So sleep paraylsis. There were a few significant things that were taking place in my life, that helped me become aware of what was really going on during these episodes. The First: I had finally gotten fed up with being a Christian living in sin. If you are unsaved or a Christian, Spirit filled or not, and you are actively participating or pursuing sinful things whether it be Rebellion (a good definition for rebellion is: overiding natural Sovereign order, and manipulating people or your enviroment to obtain a desired result. i.e. Witchcraft. It's exactly what spell casting is intended to do, and it's been the Modus Operandi of Satan since his...Hmmm, Rebellion), Fornication or Pornography, disobedience, and anything else that is not found in the nature of God or obtained by faith. Then you are giving the enemy of your soul legal access to put your life in bondage, and to destroy your sanity and your soul.

II Corinthians 10:3-6 This is a verse you hear alot in faith doctrine circles. There is a lot in there, and it's great. However most people only teach or proclaim it up to the 5th verse. If you do this, you miss the power of the verse completely.

2Cor10:3-6 NKJV,

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.4) For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5) casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6) (Here is the key to this warfare) and being ready to punish all disobedience when YOUR obedience is fulfilled.

You have no authority until you are under God's authority. As you start submitting and Subjecting yourself to God's Word, and His Spirit, you become empowered for spiritual warfare. It would do us all a lot of good to continue reading the rest of chapter ten in the same context. These verses if you let them will radically change the way you look at spiritual warfare, and the strongholds that exist first and formost in our minds.

Formalities and the Afterglow

Alright so there you have it. Now I'll continue with my own experience. There are a few things that I think are key. Unlike some others who suffer this phenomenon, My experiences were not violent or filled with visual entities in a manner of speaking. For me it would always start as a dream whether I had just drifted off to sleep or had been sleeping for sometime. Some where in the dream things would go south, fast. Something, a new Character or object would enter my dream, and I imediately knew this thing was inherently evil. I understood it was a demon or demons. So I would attempt to fight it or get it to leave. My first instinct was to rebuke it in the name of Jesus. The only problem was it seemed no matter how hard I tried I couldn't muster the name of Jesus and when I did after much effort of which by now I had tried to wake my lifeless body. I could only mumble the name Jesus. As if I had no authority to use the name.....only after an exhoustive effort of continously speaking the Lord's name did the oppression lift. In which case I would open my eyes look around and try to catch my breath like I had just swam across a lake non stop.

I would immediately fall back asleep and forget the entire incident until the next time it was about to happen which was usually too late. I would just think "oh no not again" The events would only last 10 minutes or less as far as I can estimate. It seemed as though they would never end though.

more to come.

Part 6?

The Scientific Explaination....kinda.
The medical establishment is quite aware of this phenomenon, but has a less sensational name than "old hag syndrome" for it. They call it "sleep paralysis" or SP (sometimes ISP for "isolated sleep paralysis").

So what causes it? Dr. Max Hirshkowitz, director of the Sleep Disorders Center at the Veterans Administration Medical Center in Houston, says that sleep paralysis occurs when the brain is in the transition state between deep, dreaming sleep (known as REM sleep for its rapid eye movement) and waking up. During REM dreaming sleep, the brain has turned off most of the body's muscle function so we cannot act out our dreams - we are temporarily paralyzed. Sheryl Crow Battles
The Old Hag

Rock singer Sheryl Crow is a victim of sleep paralysis, as she revealed in a 1996 interview with Rolling Stone magazine. "It's a bizarre and twisted feeling where you feel completely paralyzed. You are sure you are going to die."


"Sometimes your brain doesn't fully switch off those dreams - or the paralysis - when you wake up," Hirshkowitz told ABC News. "That would explain the 'frozen' feeling and hallucinations associated with sleep paralysis." According to his research, the effect only really lasts from a few seconds to as long as a minute, but in this half-dream half-awake state, to the victim it can seem much longer.

In her article, "Help! I Can't Move!," Florence Cardinal, About.com's Guide Sleep Disorders, writes: "Sleep paralysis is often accompanied by vivid hallucinations. There may be a sense someone is in the room, or even hovering over you. At other times, there seems to be pressure on the chest, as though someone or something perched there. There may even be sexual attacks associated with the hallucinations. The sound of footsteps, doors opening and closing, voices, all can be a very frightening part of sleep paralysis. These are known as Hypnagogic and Hypnopompic Experiences and they are what make people dread an episode of sleep paralysis."

For all their explanations, however, the sleep experts still do not know what causes the brain to screw up like this, or why some people experience it more than others.

The Revisionist.

Ok, So that last post upon review is going in a good direction, but it's not the direction I want to go right now. The whole reason for this series if one could be so brave as to call it that. Is to raise awareness of these things and bring to light the truth of the situation, for the most part stated in the first of these posts. I also want to provide an explaination and an answer to help those who suffer from such things as Sleep Paralysis, Alien Abductions, and Hauntings.

I first want to establish a historical, factual, and scientific as well as Biblical foundation for such phenomenon. I want to focus more now on the Sleep Paralysis and what happens to our bodies in our sleep state.

I had suffered with sleep paraylsis and night terrors since I was a young teen. It did not stop until I was 28. Make no mistake my symptoms were not as reoccuring as some peoples. I would say that maybe it would happen to me once every month or two. However, I would say that as I became more aware of the events, when and after they had occured, The number of attacks increased to almost weekly.

Let me explain to you what I'm talking about ( Old Hag Syndrome or Sleep Paraylsis taken from an "About . Com" article )
The victims awake to find that they cannot move, even though they can see, hear, feel and smell. There is sometimes the feeling of a great weight on the chest and the sense that there is a sinister or evil presence in the room. And like the above reader, they are often quite frightened about what is happening to them.

The name of the phenomenon comes from the superstitious belief that a witch - or an old hag - sits or "rides" the chest of the victims, rendering them immobile. Although that explanation isn't taken very seriously nowadays, the perplexing and often very frightening nature of the phenomenon leads many people to believe that there are supernatural forces at work - ghosts or demons.

The experience is so frightening because the victims, although paralyzed, seem to have full use of their senses. In fact, it is often accompanied by strange smells, the sound of approaching footsteps, apparitions of weird shadows or glowing eyes, and the oppressive weight on the chest, making breathing difficult if not impossible. All of the body's senses are telling the victims that something real and unusual is happening to them. The spell is broken and the victims recover often on the point of losing consciousness. Fully awake and well, they sit up, completely baffled by what just happened to them since now the room is entirely normal.

Confronted with such a bizarre and irrational experience, it's no wonder that many victims fear that they have been attacked in their beds by some malevolent spirit, demon or, perhaps, an alien visitor.

The phenomenon occurs to both men and women of various ages and seems to happen to about 15 percent of the population at least once in a lifetime. It can occur while the victim is sleeping during the day or night, and it is a worldwide phenomenon that has been documented since ancient times.

The war for our minds.

There are a few world wide phenomenons that transcend Race,culture,religion,and gender, but most of all time. Two of the biggest of these are Alien abductions or E.T. encounters, and supernatural encounters be it from Ghosts/shadow people, spirits, Demons, or Angels. You can find these types of experiences dating back to the oldest civilisations. Legends of when the God's came down to interact with man can also be found transpiring into modern times such as With Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon religion among many other mainstream religions including Christianity.

Ancient India has volumes of sanskrit writings on such interaction. If these events are allowed to occure long enough there is most always a tranferance or "giving of some hidden knowledge"

It is believed that much of todays technology has come from such encounters with supernatural beings. Now as Christians we might find this a little over the top.

Until you read the Bible. There are many accounts of God empowering man or giving the ability to increase skills, and advance knowledge. Such as in building the Ark for Noah. How else could Noah have the knowledge to produce a working seaworthy vessel that size in what was presumably a non maritime era in human history. Or the Arc of the Covenant, and the building of the Temple.

It's said that the book of Enoch records such interaction dealing with a certain number of fallen Angels. I have yet to review Enoch. Don't get all spiritual on me about Enoch. I do not believe the book is inspired or should be in the bible. I do however think that there are historical accounts written in it, that the bible appears to back up as authentic.

However again as we've seen in the previous posts there is a knowledge that comes from God and there is other knowledge that also has a supernatural source however the end results of that knowledge is something that we were never intended to particapate in.

Pr 14:12 -
There is a path before each person that seems right, but it ends in death.

Pr 16:25 -
There is a path before each person that seems right, but it ends in death

The knowledge we attain too must confirm God's Lord ship in our lives. The Holy Spirit only brings us into a clearer perspective of Jesus. This should really be a draft, I'll rivise as I review. I"m trying to stay on point.

The Daniel 10 encounter.

Daniel 10:7 I, Daniel, am the only one who saw this vision. The men with me saw nothing, but they were suddenly terrified and ran away to hide. 8 So I was left there all alone to watch this amazing vision. My strength left me, my face grew deathly pale, and I felt very weak. 9 When I heard him speak, I fainted and lay there with my face to the ground. 10 Just then a hand touched me and lifted me, still trembling, to my hands and knees. 11 And the man said to me, "O Daniel, greatly loved of God, listen carefully to what I have to say to you. Stand up, for I have been sent to you." When he said this to me, I stood up, still trembling with fear. 12 Then he said, "Don't be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day you began to pray for understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your request has been heard in heaven. I have come in answer to your prayers."

OK so this an incident the we see recorded in the book of Daniel. There are some pretty close similarities,however the content of the dialog are very different. There is fear and trembling mention again. As well as a vision. However there is also a physical encounter that fallows the vision. This Spirit also speaks to Daniel just as in Eliphaz's experience. Let's look at what this spirit says to Daniel.

"O Daniel, greatly loved of God," 12 Then he said, "Don't be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day you began to pray for understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your request has been heard in heaven. I have come in answer to your prayer.

The first Quote is a huge contrast from the vese in Job. God has a Great Love towards this Man Daniel. So that God would even hear this man and answer his prayers. God seems to consider this weak little chunk of mortal flesh in hight regard. Mind you this predates the cleansing blood and righteousness of Christ Jesus. There appears to be 2 seperate agendas here. Both spirits appear to have some knowledge of God, and yet they paint two very different pictures of God towards mankind. More to come.

The spirit's true identity.

Then I heard a voice saying: 17) 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God? Can a man be more pure than his Maker? 18) If He puts no trust in His servants, If He charges His angels with error, 19) How much more those who dwell in houses of clay, Whose foundation is in the dust, Who are crushed before a moth? 20) They are broken in pieces from morning till evening; They perish forever, with no one regarding. 21) Does not their own excellence go away? They die, even without wisdom.

'Now here is the portion of the verse where the entity gives its self away. At the same time trying to produce a self image for Eliphaz that he is a lesser creation than the fallen Angel speaking with him. The words this demon chooses are methodical and intentional. With a much desired result. Also painting an intimate picture of an unfaithful God towards His creation. " If he puts no trust in His servants, If he charges His angels with error, How much more those who dwell in houses of clay," Continually reminding Eliphaz of the inferior existence of those living within the constraints of mortality. Keeping Eliphaz's focus and directing it towards a lie based on circumstance. This is a technique we find daily in our spiritual warfare. I am continually reminded by way of suggestion of all my circumstances and inadequacies."

If He puts no trust in His servants, If He charges His angels with error." Right here the spirit gives its self away. The origin and it's intentions become clear. This spirit is a fallen angel no longer in obedience to God its creator. And a bit bitter from the sound of it. It's not a long lost loved one trying to communicate from beyond the grave.

The verse in Job part 3 ( the spirit speaks )

Then I heard a voice saying: 17) 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God? Can a man be more pure than his Maker? 18) If He puts no trust in His servants, If He charges His angels with error, 19) How much more those who dwell in houses of clay, Whose foundation is in the dust, Who are crushed before a moth? 20) They are broken in pieces from morning till evening; They perish forever, with no one regarding. 21) Does not their own excellence go away? They die, even without wisdom.

So can the spirit realm communicate with us via vocalization? There is a very interesting phenomenon known to the scientific and paranormal communities as E.V.P. here's a quick definition for this as well as some modern documentation of the subject.

Electronic voice phenomenon (EVP) is a term used to refer to sounds that are captured on recorded media or other electronic devices and believed by some to be voices of paranormal origin.[1] EVP are said to be typically short, usually the length of a word or short phrase, although longer segments have also been reported.[2] EVP is a branch of Instrumental transcommunication (ITC) that deals exclusively with audio.
Explanations proposed by those who believe EVP is of paranormal in origin include that they are the voices of deceased human beings, psychic projections from EVP researchers, and/or communications from intelligent non-human entities. [3][4]
Explanations proposed by those who believe EVP is of normal origin include cross modulation, interference from external RF sources, and pareidolia (the human propensity to find familiar patterns amongst random stimuli).[5][2

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An audio sample recorded at the Thunderbird Lodge on the east shore of Lake Tahoe by the AA-EVP, who believe it is an example of EVP.
In 1982, Sarah Estep founded the American Association of Electronic Voice Phenomena in Severna Park, Maryland, a nonprofit organization with the purpose of increasing awareness of EVP, and of teaching standardized methods for capturing it. Estep began her exploration of EVP in 1976, and says she has made hundreds of recordings of messages from deceased friends, relatives, and other individuals, including Konstantin Raudive, Beethoven, a lamplighter from 18th century Philadelphia, PA, and extraterrestrials whom she speculated originated from other planets or dimensions.
In March 2003, paranormal investigator Alexander MacRae conducted some recording sessions where a person was connected to a device of MacRae's design known as ALPHA.[23] MacRae reported that ALPHA is able to convert electrodermal responses into more speech-like forms. Recordings were made and analyzed by him. In an attempt to demonstrate that different individuals would interpret the recordings the same way, MacRae asked seven people to compare some selections to a list of five phrases he provided and choose the best match. He concluded that the selections were not a form of "audible Roscharch (sic)" but genuine voices whose origins could not be explained through conventional means.[3][14][24][12] MacRae's work was published by the Journal of the Society for Psychical Research in 2005.

I'm sorry for the length of this post, but I thought it necessary to bring forth modern evidence that this in not an isolated incident based on some fairytale. I know the next question is "So then who or what was this spirit who was speaking with Eliphaz." Was it a dead relative, or some ghost, or an Angel, or perhaps something other worldly? The answer to that will be in my next post........

Part 2 the verse in Job.

JOB 4:12
"Now a word was secretly brought to me, And my ear received a whisper of it. 13) In disquieting thoughts from the visions of the night, When deep sleep falls on men, 14)) Fear came upon me, and trembling, Which made all my bones shake. 15) Then a spirit passed before my face; The hair on my body stood up. 16 It stood still, But I could not discern its appearance. A form was before my eyes; There was silence; Then I heard a voice saying: 17) 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God? Can a man be more pure than his Maker? 18) If He puts no trust in His servants, If He charges His angels with error, 19) How much more those who dwell in houses of clay, Whose foundation is in the dust, Who are crushed before a moth? 20) They are broken in pieces from morning till evening; They perish forever, with no one regarding. 21) Does not their own excellence go away? They die, even without wisdom.'

So let's break this down to really understand what Eliphaz is relating to Job. The first sentence Ol'Eli tells Job something that happened to him that no one else knew about. He obviously regarded it as a significant spiritual encounter full of some hidden Knowledge. He fully believed what occurred was the (ha) Gospel truth.
"In disquieting thoughts from the visions of the night when deep sleep falls on men" He was having nightmares which tells us he had entered into R.E.M. sleep. So he was completely unconscious physically. ( but suddenly) "Fear came upon me with trembling that made all my bones shake." Something jolted his body awake. I believe that though our minds and body enter into a sleep state. Our spirits are always on. Not God conscience, but on. I believe Eli's spirit became aware of another spirit in the room and reacted violently. Causing a direct response to his physical body. Or the other spirit manifested physically upon Eliphaz. After all he was having nightmares and anxiety he also mentions fear. I won't pretend to know what exactly was taking place but I have had similar encounters with the spirit realm in my sleep. We also know that it wasn't a noise that woke him because he is careful to mention that the entity was silent until it spoke.

Ok, so now he's conscience. we know he is no longer dreaming because your not aware of your physical body when you're unconscious. So for the rest of the experience Eliphaz is awake, aware, and taking notes. He sees a spirit with his own eyes which are now open. And describes it as a form with out any distinguishable features. However he mentions that it stood still which leads me to think that there was some sort of physical dimension to it. I don't think it was transparent or a mist. It could also have been a completely physical form that he simply did not recognize because he had no reference for it. " I could not discern it's appearance" it certainly wasn't human or animal, but it was real.

I thought the " Hair on my body stood up" was interesting too. You can find this in almost any ghost/alien encounter documented. There could be a number of metaphysical reasons for this, including electromagnetic field disturbance. It is said that all living things have an energy or aura as some call it. It is documented, but I believe that the human spirit in relation to our soul condition is what projects our energy. Or countenance as the Bible refers to it. ( of course I'm willing to be wrong on all of this) That's all for now...............

"Sunny Get the Nannites"

OK,.....................so for the next couple of installations I will attempt to blog upon one subject. ( and doubt arises.........so I punch it in the face, this is my place not myspace) Sorry, I was inspired by Lexi's spoken word blog.

For those of you who do not know. I am intensely interested by unexplained reoccurring phenomenons. Whether they appear in nature or science or the corner of our eyes. I am convinced that if you want truth from the past you have to seek origins, or a first documented occurrence. I have found in my few years as a Bible believing Spirit filled Christian that the Bible is a good place to start. And in my opinion is the best place to find anything regarding the human experience. Either of the mind, body, soul, or spirit.

So the other week I was reading through a few portions of Job, arguably the oldest written book of the Bible. Yet not the first book we read in the old testament. I believe the purpose of this book is to reveal to us the nature of Satan and the world religious view. Which also has the same source. Satan. Upon reading I came across a very interesting encounter with what I believe to be a fallen angel/Demonic spirit. Along with a few other verses. I believe this single encounter is one of the precursors of night terrors and alien abduction. Not to mention the world view of humanity. I think it is a key to understanding the strategy's of the enemy that we wrestle against.

In Genesis we ( the human race ) meet the nature of Satan ( Lucifer the rebel angel) in a powerful physical and verbal encounter. Which alters the course of God's original intent for humans and the earth as a whole. However it does not alter God's own intentions which remain to this day. And which we are invited to be co participants of........AWESOME.........more to come stay tuned. ( please forgive any misspelled words)

I'm Back!!!!

Alright, I forgot my password and my url address. After revealing my inadequacies to my blog savvy wife, she helped me with what I was doing wrong. And now I'm back. Oh and by the way I have a little rap for you.

I roll with ladybot
Ghetto from the start
you can not hope to stop

ladybot ladybot.

sometimes while I draw characters I sing them a theme song.

So today I met a young Indian man from Hyderabad. I shared with him that I had been to his city and really enjoyed the people there. He asked why I had gone, so I told him it was a missionary trip. He asked me what kind......I said Christian. Oh, he said rather excitedly. Now believing him to be a Christian I started to tell him of the villages and how much I loved the people. He asked me a few more questions about my experience. I didn't get to tell about any of the miracles or anything like that. I told him how my awesome wife was going back to India this summer. Then he said something I did not expect.....

"Man, Christians are always doing good things like that everywhere and those people need it". Then he looked at himself and rather bashfully said "Muslims........they don't do anything like that." A little stunned I sputtered out........aw that's not true..... They have a pretty good banking system in Nigeria. I completely left out the part about having to join mos( I'll correct the spelling later) in order to bank with them. Still on the clock I offered him my name and a handshake. Then told him I'd see him later. His name was Balai and he was one of the nicest young men I've met in a long time.

Oh and he also asked where my church was, very cool.

What we have is not equal to what we are.....

My Friend what are we afraid to lose that we would hold after this breath of life expires and the silver cord is severed, And this dirt laid/made flesh retires? Can it be preserved, This stuff we've made our lives?
Can we hold it in our hands before Him, The giver of all things? Will it match the value of crimson royalty? Could it be counted a worthy exchange?

And when He holds out His hands before us…..the ones that bear our names, what then, what then? The spoil of our life will be as ashes in the wind. Dear friend count the cost……what is it to gain this kindling wood world if our souls are to be lost. Let's mark our selves of Him, And store our treasures in Heaven, And shake the ashes from our feet.